BP This Week: Remembering R. C. Sproul

John Stonestreet and Ed Stetzer discuss the overwhelming impact of the life and robust faith of Reformed theologian and head of Ligonier Ministries, Dr. R. C. Sproul—a man who not only shaped Chuck Colson, but who for thousands and thousands, “bridged the gap between Sunday School and seminary.”

Our hosts also unpack the Senate results in Alabama, and recognize the historic news of ISIS’s defeat in Iraq

Resources

Died: R. C. Sproul, Reformed Theologian Who Founded Ligonier Ministries
  • Kate Shellnutt
  • Christianity Today
  • December 14, 2017
When Disability Hits Home
  • Joni and Friends
What if America Won a War and No One Cared?
  • David French
  • National Review
  • December 14, 2017

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  • kennyadler

    As a weekly listener and someone who respects you both greatly, I feel burdened to mention the one thing that seems to be missing from the whole Roy Moore discussion… the truth. I am only seeing assumptions. It is assumed that Justice Moore is guilty and the women are telling the truth. The evidence that has come out doesn’t necessarily support that assumption.
    The other assumption is that supporters like myself would vote for him even if we knew he was guilty. I can only speak for myself but that is just not the case.
    I won’t belabor the point because as I have stated, I have the utmost respect for you both. Just please, always consider the facts and evidence as the number one priority in any conversation of this nature. May God richly bless you.

    • Arnold Kropp

      The Roy Moore thing. From all that I’ve heard about Moore is that the accusations against him have been long ago, some 40 years in his past. Who among us has had a perfect past?

      • Phoenix1977

        No one. However, from people who are supposed to lead a country you can demand a higher standard. Than again, some people can grab them by the ***** and still be elected president.

        • Scott

          No American president (in my lifetime that I know of) lived to a higher standard their whole life. Boy, that’s a sad statement.

          • Phoenix1977

            Perhaps that’s what’s wrong in the US and in American politics?

          • Scott

            I think it is part of the problem… the options we had for president in 2016 would certainly point us in that direction.

            One thing I personally want avoid is making character judgements on people I don’t know though. What is said about someone by others isn’t always true. If I were to be honest about myself, I would say that I have not always lived to a “higher standard” either… I wouldn’t want someone judging me for my former self.

            I think you’ve heard my rusty cups metaphor before. : – ) That is not my metaphor I must confess. Francis Collins used it in his book “The Language of God.”

          • Phoenix1977

            “One thing I personally want avoid is making character judgements on people I don’t know though. What is said about someone by others isn’t always true.”
            Luckily the entire nation could hear Donald Trump say it himself since there was an audio recording of it. And still people voted for him, thinking it to be safe to have people like him around their mothers, wives and daughters.

          • Scott

            Yeah… the 2016 presidential election was certainly lacking in character/integrity. Many of us Christians were left scratching our heads and wondering how on earth we were going to vote. Neither candidate had much to offer… and neither represented our core values.

            Don’t worry, you won’t hear me defend Donald Trump’s comments on that recording. Since he was pretty dismissive when asked about those comments, my guess is that he has not really changed since he made them either. Still, I am asked to forgive all those who have done wrong… and offer them grace. After all, I was forgiven and have become a completely different person. Ironically you would have hated me in my atheist days (you may still)… In fact, if you had met me when I was 22 (and survived : – ), and then again at 42, you would have said to yourself “how on earth is that possible?” You might even believe in the supernatural.

            Believe it or not, I’m not really a political person… just don’t get me going on Jesus, art or philosophy. : – )

          • Just One Voice

            “I’m just a singer of simple songs, I’m not a real political man. I watch CNN but I’m not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq & Iran…”

            One of my favorite songs by Alan Jackson. I was definitely left scratching my head too. I have a feeling it’s going to be that way until THE last day. I can’t help but think that, ultimately, with all the political corruption, we’re simply reaping what was sown thousands of years ago when the LORD warned Israel of having a human king (1 Samuel 8 I believe) In the New Testament, I think of Galatians 6:7-8. My paraphrase of that: Who are we kidding? Nobody. We reap what we sow. The end.

            Sounds like you have quite the salvation story of turning your life over to Christ! Would be interested to hear it; when & where appropriate 🙂

          • Scott

            To be honest, I don’t often listen to country music… but I just went and played the song and I really like the lyrics!

            No doubt about the 2016 election… we (as Americans) are pretty divided and our media is perpetuating the problem. I’m not sure about THE last day either, you could be right. I agree that it’s not difficult to see the similarities between American culture today and 2 Timothy 3:1-17. Although Jesus makes it clear that we will not know the hour.

            Not too long ago I was reading 1 Samuel and remember thinking the same thing. The Old Testament illustrates human sin like a broken record, we just keep making the same mistakes over and over again. It is no different today. You make some good observations and I really like how you tie them back to scripture. I always try to measure what I do and say against Jesus’ teaching in the New Testament… I really like Galatians 6, especially verse 8: “For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.” The Holy Spirit is real and alive in all of us… This might sound a little crazy but we just have to bring Him to the front and let Him lead, moving ourselves behind Him. For 30+ years I lived the first part of Galatians 6:8 and once I met Jesus it still took me a while to find the Holy Spirit within me (I had a bit of internal house cleaning to do : – ). The beautiful thing about the Holy Spirit is, if you let Him lead, He never stops improving the character of your soul. I would love to say that I let Him lead all the time, but the truth is I’m not there yet. The doing is a scary thing sometimes and that kind of faith isn’t easy… but I will not stop trying. Once I actually experienced the Holy Spirit’s redemptive work in me, I was all in (still working on the “all” part : – ).

            “Sounds like you have quite the salvation story of turning your life over to Christ! Would be interested to hear it; when & where appropriate :-)”

            It’s a long one… and still in progress. : – ) I would wish what happened to me on my worst enemy because if it did, we wouldn’t be enemies any more. Maybe I will share my salvation story if it is helpful, although I am no writer so it would probably take some time to flush out. My story does not compare to THE STORY though. : – )

    • Scott

      This is valid. If Mr Moore is innocent, then it is criminal what his accusers cost him.

  • Said Flores

    Of course I look at character, but which one? The one of 40 years ago (if it were true) or the character of the past 40 years?
    In any case voting for a Democrat (LGBT ‘rights’, Abortion, Debt, ACA, DACA, Immigration, Big Government, 2nd Amnd, Education, Liberal Universities, pressuring Israel, etc etc) is just no option.