What did John Winthrop mean when he used this phrase in his famous sermon to his band of intrepid puritans in 1630 as they set out for the new world? John and Shane debunk the standard interpretations used throughout American history.

They also talk about the voters of Hong Kong turning out in record numbers to endorse democracy; Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s wooing of the Black vote, and how the media just doesn’t get it; and the radical shift of the Democratic party to allow abortions under all circumstances–and just how out of touch the party is with the opinions of the vast majority of Americans when it comes to abortion.

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